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What the hell cconsaul, who taught you to play bone!?
Bb:1st
B: 4th
C: 3rd
C#: 2nd
D: 1st
Eb: 3rd
E: 2nd
F: 1st
F#: 3rd
G: 2nd
Ab: 3rd
A: 2nd
Bb: 1st or 3rd

Make sure to adjust your partials!. Remember to flatten Eb, E and F and sharpen F# and G a little!. And don't EVER use your attachment to play a scale up there!Www@QuestionHome@Com

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a chromatic scale is the same!.!.!.

Regardless of where you start it's always
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C C# D Eb E F F# G Ab A Bb B ->>>Www@QuestionHome@Com

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I believe you are talking about slide trombone (Tenor) here, so I will proceed accordingly!.
Bb is first position
B natural is fourth
C natural is third
C Sharp is second
D is First
E flat is third
E natural is second
F is first
F sharp is fifth position
G is fourth
G#/A flat is third position
A is second position
Top B flat is first position

If you have an F attachment / F trigger, there are some variations you can explore, but the second octave scale is actually easier to play than the lower octave once you learn the overtone series and how to lip up!. If you look below, there are some links to standard two octave scales including the chromatic scale!.

Response to Pure Ewil's remark!

Pure Ewil and Brandon prefer to use a portion of the overtone series that tends to go flat!. (the 7th partial) I was taught that the octave overtone is more reliable and I only have to move down to fifth position once and go straight up to first!. I provided the links so you would have access to that fingering anyway, but you may have noticed that the partials they warn you about are really not an issue if you play it the way I was taught!. I don't know why a "Professional Trombone" player would be afraid to slide all the way down to fifth position to avoid the flat seven (7th) partial, but that's their problem I guess!. So you can go to third twice and pull in both times, or go to fifth and pull in once!. It's curious to think that neither player bothered to consider that it was actually a viable option! Now, just to be sure, I pulled out my King Bass Trombone with F and D attachments and blew a quick chromatic scale both ways!. Since I am blowing on a Bach 1G mouthpiece, the A flat sounded just a little bit low!. I haven't blown the horn for awhile since I am retired from the Army Band, but when I checked the alternate positions I am accustomed to against my Korg chromatic tuner I was dead on!. If I was playing a particularly fast passage I might resort to the flat seven overtone, (7th partial) but for a standard chromatic scale I would generally prefer to slide down to fifth and lip up to the octave!. (8th partial) Keep in mind that I was a guitar player in the Army, (MOS 02T30) but I spent a great deal of time on the parade field blowing Trombone, Baritone, and Tuba!. I was All State and All Eastern on Trombone in High School, and minored in Tuba at NMSU!.

Anyway, both techniques work!. Ewil's and Brandon's allow you to avoid fifth position, although you have to lip up to the flat seventh overtone and adjust for the fact that it tends to play very flat on most horns!. The method I most commonly use forces you to slide down to fifth position and skip the flat seven overtone completely, but it gives you a lot more room to adjust for intonation and tends to fall into tune a little easier once you are used to it!. At least you have the option!.

http://www!.trombone!.org/trombone-l/archi!.!.!.

http://www!.trombonelessons!.com/overtones!.!.!.
4) The 7th partial (Ab in first position) will be very flat in each position!. QUESTION: Why do we never play Ab in first position!? ANSWER: We can't make the tube any shorter to adjust for intonation! AND!.!.!.!.!.!.If we are playing the G above the staff in 2nd position, we better pull the slide in! Gb in 3rd, F in 4th!.!.!.!.!.same thing!.
http://www!.trombonelessons!.com/positionc!.!.!.

http://www!.answers!.com/topic/trombone!?ca!.!.!.
Technique
As with all brass instruments, progressive tightening of the lips and increased air pressure allow the player to move to a different partial in the harmonic series!. In the first or closed position on a B flat trombone, the notes in the harmonic series begin with the pedal or fundamental B flat1, followed by B flat2 (one octave higher), F3 (a perfect fifth higher), B flat3 (a perfect fourth higher), D4 (a major third higher), F4 (a minor third higher),

Read this >>> A flat4 (a minor third higher; this note is always flat and is not usually played in this position, though it has been the practice in Germany and Austria to do so),

B flat4 (a major second higher), C5 (a major second higher), D5 (a major second higher), E flat (a minor second higher, but very sharp), F5 (a major second higher)!. Very skilled players with a highly- developed facial musculature can go even higher than this, to G5, A flat5, B flat5 and beyond!.


http://music!.ou!.edu/applied/horn/intonat!.!.!.
Trombone Intonation
In this discussion, trombone has been absent!. However, there are definite considerations that must be taken with this instrument!. The trombone is the only brass instrument that can be played perfectly in tune!.

Read This >>> Sadly to say, it has been my experience that trombonists are often the most blatant offenders of poor intonation!. This comes from inadequate ear training in their formative years!. Often young trombonists are instructed to place the slide in an arbitrary spot for position assignment!.

Trombone positions are not universal among individual players!. All trombone positions are approximate!. It is up to the director to go slowly and make sure all trombonists are matching pitch on beginning band unison exercises!. While this is time consuming, it is well worth your while, as it will help the intonation of the intermediate and advanced ensembles in the future!.

The trombone is perhaps the most painful instrument to learn how to play!. It is physically painful and awkward to told!. Secondly, with respect to the slide mechanism, there is no concrete spot for most slide positions!. This, in addition to the awkwardness of holding the instrument are the main reasons the trombone section exhibits the highest drop-out rate for beginning bands!.

also there are directors that neglect to tell these players that the instrument has a tuning slide!. It is essential that the instrument be in tune in the first position!. Tune to a concert Bb and adjust the main tuning slide accordingly!. On step-up models some trombone slides have a spring mechanism, similar to a shock absorber at the very end of the slide!. For these instruments, have the person tune the first position where the slide barely touches the spring mechanism!. This will give the player some latitude in raising the first position fifth harmonic (d1)!.

Another aid for the trombonist is the alternate position!. The sixth position f and the short fourth position d1 are common substitutions and should be introduced to your beginning bandsmen!. It is imperative that you spend adequate time with your trombonists in unison playing with one another, with other bandsmen, and with a tuning device to help develop a secure sense of pitch!.

(By the way, Lots of "Professional" trombone players use triggers to facilitate proper intonation and allow them to play arpeggios and phrases that are at best problematic without them!. When it comes down to using the trigger or sounding like mud, use the trigger sparingly, but in the rare cases when musicianship demands, use the trigger!)

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B flat- 1
B - 4
C- 3 or 6
C#- 2 or 5
D- 1 or 4
E Flat- 3
E- 2
F- 1 or 4
F#- 3
G- sharp 2
A flat- 1
A- 2
B- 1 or 3rd

and really man!. !. !. come on!. if anything you could have really played them in the same position!.Www@QuestionHome@Com

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